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COMMENT 290832P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 02:48 AM
831P - Just because it is a "common practice" does not make it right. Those who live too far away to leave chairs and then come back later have never thought it was OK.
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COMMENT 290833	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 06:20 AM
Your chairs were not stolen. When you placed them on the curb, they became part of public domain.
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COMMENT 290834	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 06:30 AM
Call Animal Control and report the dog owners. Imagine going to the neighbors and telling them their little brat is misbehaving--they're more likely to assault you than deal with the problem. Dog people are a hundred thousand times worse, because many of them have psychological issues they're attempting to address by owning dogs.
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COMMENT 290835	Just Walkin' The Rails	2012-06-24 06:36 AM
@728 The Nun's beach area is named after a group of nuns who used to live there. Their house was destroyed in the "flood of '69". The lot sat empty for years till Kenny Loggins built the house presently there (he sold it long ago). It's the fourth house east of the Miramar.
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COMMENT 290836	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 06:39 AM
Barking dogs can make bitter enemies of neighbors. Talk to them first. There used to be some sort of Mesa neighborhood group that held sway with certain council members. I think they only cared about big houses but give Allied Neighborhood Association and Mesa Homeowners Association a jingle. What really works is: Call the police and get at least two like-minded neighbors to call also otherwise action will be inconsequential. Repeat offenders get referred to the DA. FIne$$$, and possible confiscation of animal(s). And check with the assessors office on your property assessment. May be an opportunity to get it lowered.
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COMMENT 290837P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 06:48 AM
I'm afraid I too think that leaving chairs out to "reserve" a place on a public street isn't okay. To me it's entitled behavior and somewhat arrogant. What about people who work long hours, have kiddies and who can't get down to reserve "their" spot? They have to search for a decent spot and kids are already at a disadvantage because of size. It also happens along the beachfront July 4 - you see folks putting out yellow tape around entire areas to "reserve" them for their groups. As someone said on an earlier thread, if you want to sleep overnight on the sidewalk, as they do for the Pasadena Rose Parade, that's fine, but don't hog empty spaces for hours. I'd actually support some kind of city ruling on this.
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COMMENT 290838P	Toro Canyon Park	2012-06-24 06:55 AM
I think Park Rangers are valuable; however, I know volunteers who live in other parks and do keep an eye on things. It all comes down to getting what you pay for. If people want to keep low taxes (and they're low compared to other countries), we lose services. None of the "don't tax me!" folks will figure that out until the paramedics/firefighters/cops don't show up the minute they need them - then they'll complain about lack of service. Go figure.
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COMMENT 290839	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 06:56 AM
I have always heard the parade started on Milpas Street for his birthday but maybe I'm wrong
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RDH	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 06:57 AM
Very nice closeups of parade participants and an interesting historical insight. Thank you.
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SUMMERTIME	Kitty the Cat	2012-06-24 06:59 AM
Beautiful girl.....
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COMMENT 290842	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 06:59 AM
Also check to see how many dogs the owner has - more than 3 is against the law in the county. I think you can call animal control and they can tell you how many dogs are registered at the address. If they are unlicensed then there are some hefty fines. 836 is also right. 818 & 820 - you are likely guilty of having barking mutts.
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COMMENT 290843	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 06:59 AM
You should have looked around a little. When I worked downtown I used to love to grab my coffee ons state the morning of the fiesta parade and move peoples chairs all around. It's our entitlement society that leads some to believe that they can lay claim to space the night before.
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COMMENT 290844	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 07:00 AM
Dogs bark for a reason. Rarely just for the heck of it. Our neighbour's dog barked incessantly - more like a panicky shrieking hysteria - when his owner left the house. Later we found out he was shut in a small cage because the wife - an invalid - was scared of tripping over the poor thing. They left and now the son has the dog. He rarely barks and appears to enjoy a normal dog life with regular walks and exercise.
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SUMMERTIME	Bigs the Silly Labrador	2012-06-24 07:03 AM
What a sweetheart....
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COMMENT 290846	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 07:06 AM
I am so sorry that your chairs were stolen; that is just crummy. Theft is not tolerable. Our family has been setting out chairs for Solstice and other parades since 1975. We've never had chairs stolen. It is part of our Santa Barbara local tradition and uniqueness. In spite of working, at least 1 family member has been able to setup. It actually makes me proud that as a community we can trust each other and rely on each other's goodness. That spirit is what sets us apart from L.A. where you would never leave out chairs. I hope the tradition and spirit behind setting up chairs lasts a very long time.
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COMMENT 290847	Wayward Pelican	2012-06-24 07:08 AM
Perhaps the same one that was hanging around Refugio pier last week. Quite tame and a skilled beggar.
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COMMENT 290848	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 07:09 AM
I don't understand the problem. America prides itself as a nation created by the strength of immigrants since the 17th century.
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COMMENT 290849	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 07:10 AM
837..... Well said... Couldn't agree more... 843 ... Shame on you..... You are a troublemaker and I like that in a person.... Carry on with your good work!
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COMMENT 290850	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 07:17 AM
I'm glad to read that I'm not the only party pooper who thinks it's uncool to place chairs and blankets, etc..., in public spaces hours ahead of a public event, especially on a sidewalk. I've always marveled at the nerve of those who do it. Leaving their belongings with such faith in society that the items will still be there upon their return. Guess I'm a little jaded....
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COMMENT 290851P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 07:33 AM
Wow! Those pictures certainly appear to indicate something is indeed very wrong with the water quality. Boo Any ideas out there what might be a quick fix besides draining & drying it out?
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COMMENT 290852P	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 07:41 AM
Call animal control ASAP. Irresponsible dog owners are usually very aware their dogs are the offenders, but can't give a rat's a**. Sadly, these folks are in a very small, but annoying minority and it usually takes an official contact to get the point driven home. Make the call & by all means keep us informed what happens with the problem.
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COMMENT 290853P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 07:47 AM
We drive from the S.Y. Valley and it's a total hassle to find a great viewing spot due to the "reserved" spots. Solstice is the BEST event all year, imo, & yes, we could leave a dawn to get there, but why? I agree with the many here, either don't allow it or you take your chances on the chairs magically moving around or worse, doing the Summer Solstice Disappearance Act.
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COMMENT 290854P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 07:47 AM
843...you rascal you! OP--Next year, park our selves in your chairs and wait just like everybody else. Make a mini event of it--coffee, breakfast, books, knitting, iphone--whatever it takes to keep our spot. If you are that dedicated to getting a good spot--more power to you. But just plunking down chairs in a prime spot and walking away? sorry, no pity for you.
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COMMENT 290855P	Wiley Spots Solstice	2012-06-24 07:49 AM
Nice shot, John Summer Solstice blows Earth Day at the park away!
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COMMENT 290856P	Police are investigating the shooti...	2012-06-24 07:53 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like Santa Maria is competing with Chicago to be the 2012 shooting and gang related crime leader in America? Geeze I can think of many other places to visit & shop with the perceived uptick in crime there.
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COMMENT 290857	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 07:56 AM
Insert the word "illegal" and you might understand the problem.
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COMMENT 290858	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 07:57 AM
A quick fix would have been to put a harbor there.
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COMMENT 290859	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 07:58 AM
Legally these chairs constitute a hazard in the public space. They constrict public passage and invite tripping/falls. If everyone knew public works would remove remove all 'unattended debris' one hour before the event, we would have a level playing field for spectators and the street would not be congested before the event. 843-You devil! Get busy!
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COMMENT 290860	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 07:59 AM
If you know history, you'll realize we're all immigrants.
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SEEDLADY	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 08:02 AM
looks like folks had a really good time making their costumes, judging from all the radiant smiles!
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COMMENT 290862	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:04 AM
Ok ... and the next great parade is just behind the corner ! The Fiesta Parade will be August 3rd. Start mapping the best viewing spots and get your recliners ready ! Great outdoor furniture discounts at local stores...
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SEEDLADY	Flower Fest	2012-06-24 08:04 AM
not much color down there--do they raise much flower seed in Lompoc anymore, now that they big seed companies have moved out?
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COMMENT 290864	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:15 AM
an inflated sense of entitlement is the problem here. i see it more and more often in public space, especially on the road. it's the "oops i missed my turn because i was paying attention to my cell phone, i'll just cross these yellow lines and cut these people off driving down the road to make a safe turn would be too much of an inconvenience to my life" attitude. it's the same attitude that's causing the problem with the chairs, "we want prime parade viewing spots but we don't want to earn them. damn the other locals, we're the real locals!"
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COMMENT 290865P	Who Says It's Called the Cacique Un...	2012-06-24 08:18 AM
love the moorish arches, nice photos, UHS. Roger, you are a gem!
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COMMENT 290866	Police on Mesa	2012-06-24 08:22 AM
We heard the sirens also, right around 1 AM, at least 2 cars. Just before that, my husband heard what sounded like skate boards in the park, and a lot of shouting. That's all I know...
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COMMENT 290867	Toro Canyon Park	2012-06-24 08:23 AM
I always wondered why there was a full time ranger at Toro. Its a beautiful place but its barely visited and the ranger had a pretty nice set-up. did they get to live there for free as well? I’m sure there are a ton of citizens who would trade free accommodations for a little yard work... besides Toro was far from well maintained. The fence around the ground squirrel infested dog park is one example... I dont think privatization and profiting from public land is a good thing but I also dont think we should pay people for a part time gig like maintenance of a sparsely used park.
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COMMENT 290868	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 08:24 AM
290834, the problem lies elsewhere. Have a mirror?
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COMMENT 290869	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:26 AM
How about those who duct taped large sheets of plastic over the parking strip lawns for three days prior to the parade to reserve the spot for their group? Peace and love, bro.
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COMMENT 290870	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 08:29 AM
is it possible to drain it and rehabilitate the pond?
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COMMENT 290871P	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 08:29 AM
Last summer, what was suggested to keep robbers from your home? Barking dogs. My little dogs are sensor sounds (as opposed to sensor lights). When someone goes past the yard, they bark for about 30 seconds and it's over. For dogs that chronically bark, talk to the owner nicely ("neighborly") so they are aware of the problem. Give them a chance to correct the situation. If you are certain they aren't trying to help their dogs (understanding it may take some time) THEN call the authorities. I think it's really tacky to post addresses. to 834- projection....
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COMMENT 290872	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 08:32 AM
I live right in middle of 'immigration' - 2 of my Mex/...American neighbors sell cocaine. I bet the other 40 living in my trailer park don't pay taxes. Wake up SB - The American dream is being replaced by the Mexican dream.
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COMMENT 290874	Faces of Solstice	2012-06-24 08:35 AM
These pictures are wonderful, really bringing out the spirit of the day!
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COMMENT 290875	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 08:36 AM
i live on upper fellowship and i often walk my well behaved, harnessed dog around the neighborhood. not only do some of the neighborhood dogs bark incessantly but often times they're left to roam the streets. there is a black and white dog who lives in a dingy, dark colored ford ranger in the 800 block of fellowship. the truck is normally parked in front of the second house above sage hill. the dog has attacked us numerous times while walking the neighborhood, you can look at the owner's fence on google maps street view and see the charming corrugated roof panels they put in place where the dog repeatedly chewed through the fence. most of the time it's either locked in that truck in front of the house or roaming the neighborhood streets trying to bite me. 821, i've noticed the two giant dogs that are behind the white gate with the warning sign on the 400 block bark a lot when i walk by but i actually never noticed the dogs at the two addresses you mentioned.
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COMMENT 290876	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 08:38 AM
Pretty much describes sb to me, fowl, rank and unlivable.
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COMMENT 290877P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 08:39 AM
Interesting pictures, John. The part that smells the strongest is the narrow neck near the zoo/ocean; I wonder if that is the strongest? I was down there last evening and there was little smell near the Los Patos, but the smell was strong along Cabrillo and, especially the narrow part. It's a natural occurrence and, hopefully, can be ameliorated. Unfortunately, neither Jill Zachary (those who remember her from Creeks know well!) nor the arrogant Mr. Escobar (any member of the public who's attempted to ask his help knows well that public service is not within his competence) are competent.
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COMMENT 290878P	Just Walkin' The Rails	2012-06-24 08:40 AM
Really fun read - would love to join UH, can you send link to that? Thank you for sharing!
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COMMENT 290879	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:41 AM
Haha... In the same vein ...check out the chump on Mesa Lane...he thinks he owns the street...puts out parking cones to save a parking spot for his business truck and chipper..City outta send him a bill...talk about entitlement..
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COMMENT 290880P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 08:41 AM
Should have written, I wonder if that is the shallowest? It most definitely is the strongest smelling.
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COMMENT 290881	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:41 AM
Read this a few years ago in the Times, maybe true. They wrote that the scrap value of one aluminum lawnchair is enough for one hit of crack cocaine. Aluminum is better than gold, because it is easier to sell.
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REDTOP	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:45 AM
I am very sorry your chairs were stolen. I've always thought that putting out chairs and blankets before the parade is a charming part of Santa Barbara life indicating that neighbors trust neighbors and value the parade. We put out chairs. This used to be a hometown parade, a local tradition, originally put on and enjoyed by friends and neighbors. Unfortunately, times have changed. The parade now attracts around 100,000 people the press says. It's very sad that people would take chairs which obviously have been put out for a specific purpose. To most of us stealing is still stealing and it is flat wrong. So sorry for your loss, neighbor.
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COMMENT 290883	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 08:46 AM
Go to whitepages on the computer and use the address locater and if you click view more neighbors, you get the birds eye view. Then you can get the names, too!
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COMMENT 290884	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 08:48 AM
Why is it that there is no coverage by Animal Patrol during the time most of us are annoyed by irresponsible owners and their pets. I am talking about evenings and weekends... We are paying the bills here, why not run split shifts to cover the hours that are most important to the citizenry?
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COMMENT 290885P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:49 AM
The OP is right: it has been the SB tradition to reserve spots along the routes or parades, a tradition whose time has come and gone now that SB is much larger. The city and residents shouldn't be so self-centered, self-entitled. If you want a ringside/streetside seat, get there and sit. Otherwise, what's left along the street belongs to and is easy pickings for anyone.
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COMMENT 290886	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:50 AM
Unfortunately OP your sense of community looks a lot like what's is wrong with our society. 1% claim priviledge while the rest have to scramble for themselves. I agree that perhaps to curb the priviledge takers the City could remove the chairs and blankets left along side the road to make it clear that if you want to get there early and reserve a spot you should place yourself on that spot to lay claim to it, just as you would in a long slow and crowded line. But that said, people acting as vigilantes removing some claim stakes while leaving others is nothing but vandalism. These are worse than the folks going with a crappy tradition and staking a claim on a public thoroughfare. Two wrongs don't make a right and stealing or removing chairs is more anti-social than the original act of claiming priviledge.
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COMMENT 290887	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 09:03 AM
Establish a rapport with your neighbour. Go talk to them and ask them if they are aware of their dog's behaviour. If they are and don't give a darn about it you have just cause to invite the local government to intervene. But if they are indeed civically minded you may actually help foster a tighter sense of community in your neck of the woods.
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SBJULES	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:08 AM
Considering that this happens every year; that'a a cheap shot at Jill Zachary & Mr. Escobar. Perhaps the city should put in a claim to the Clark Estate; it is named for her sister after all.
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COMMENT 290889	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 09:16 AM
Definately talk to the owners but start in a freindly way and make the assumption that they are not aware of the problem. They may not realize how much the dogs are barking. Suggest that they buy an anti-bark collar. When the dog barks, it emits a small shot of liquid that dogs don't like.
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COMMENT 290890P	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 09:18 AM
Does anyone realize that all those illegal imigrants are taking jobs away from legal citizens? They get the jobs because they'll work cheap (busboys, fastfood etc.etc, etc.) Solvang runs on illegals.
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COMMENT 290891P	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 09:19 AM
For the record I love the Solstice parade and have not missed one in years. And I in no way mean to disparage the parade, it's participants, or it's organizers but this year version, though visually stunning in more ways then one, seemed a bit disorganized. For the past few years I have watched it from a vantage point near the end of the route by the park. This year was no exception. Most people in that area seemed to think the parade ended just after the Blue Dragon floated by with a few smaller floats tailing it and started to gather in the street behind them as if the parade was over. I too took that to mean that the parade was over and left the area and entered the park only to learn later that there was more that came after I left. I think the large gaps between floats and groups of marchers fooled people at the end of the route me included. I am not sure what caused this but other then that I loved the parade as always.
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COMMENT 290892	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 09:23 AM
LOL, "California Immigrant Policy Center" is writing their own version of how great illegal immigration is to our State! Our schools are subidizing "anchor babies", our hospitals are charging the taxpayers for illegal's medical services from routine ER visits to birthing centers, food Debit cards for non citizens, housing subsidized at taxpayer expense...the list goes on and on. The only thing that can change the tide of illegal immigration is to CHANGE the 14th Ammendment of the Consitution. We are the ONLY country in the WORLD that gives citizenship and a all the social welfare benefits to children born here to non citizens- It's CRAZY! If I was a poor -underclass Mexican citizen, I too would cross the border for all the free services the US taxpayers provide!
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COMMENT 290893	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 09:24 AM
834, WTF?
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GRACE	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 09:24 AM
Michael was one of those kind souls who made everyone feel better about themselves and life itself. I happened to be standing on State St. that day in 1974 when he parades with a few friends down State. It was an instant smile on your face type of event and we all began cheering and laughing. It seems God takes the benign.
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COMMENT 290895P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:24 AM
They oughtta just drain the damn thing and build a Target there.
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COMMENT 290897	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:32 AM
The pics are terrific. I am wondering what is best for the animals and fish that inhabit this marsh/estuary/whatever it is. I dont get the politics, but seems with so much citizen concern, a big local volunteer effort could be made to clean it up a bit if that is what is needed. I hear lots of voices of concern, maybe those affected could create an action plan, and use their knowledge to enact positive change. Seems like it would be hard for any governmental group to say no to a free fix.
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COMMENT 290898	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 09:37 AM
Write a nice letter about the dogs barking and put it in their mailbox. Keep a copy for your records to show that you have advised of the problem. If nothing changes in a week, call the non emergency police number and talk to them, start a record of complaints. I have a little dog that barks so during the day we don't let him outside while we are at work. Fortunately he goes to the bathroom in our bathroom if locked in so it is easy to clean up. If we let him out while we aren't here is anxious and barks at every little sound, it drives the neighbors crazy. I would rather clean up his toilet than have my neighbors hate me because my dog barks. Also, we got a citronella bark collar for times where he may be extra barky, like if we have a yard sale, it works GREAT with no pain.
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BONNER	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 09:38 AM
You're an inspiration, just keep doing what you're doing but don't stop writing! I could not talk myself into "running" even with an electronic partner, and I'm not even Irish! I walk enough and work out in the garden enough, justification for not spending too much time on the computer, the biggest love/hate conversational relationship I have with technology.
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COMMENT 290900	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:41 AM
Hi folks!!.....Guess what?....this is not a "natural" occurance!....the water here flowed quite nicely until Andre' Clark had her Daddy drain & refill the place. Ever since then,the bird refuge has created this unhealthy condition yearly. The funk of it all is a MAN made situation....
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COMMENT 290901	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 09:43 AM
I have tried to talk to dog owners, in a very nice manner about their barking dogs. In all instances, nothing changed...and I had to then go to the property managers. The result, I was vibed by the dog owner for the remaining time I was at that location. It was uncomfortable, and none of the neighborly kindness was shown to me inspite of my attempt to work with the owners. I would simply start a paper trail with animal control, the owners know the dogs are barking, if they dont, then let the authorities tell them. That way you can stay on friendly terms. There is something to be said for anonymity (right all of you listed as comment instead of names).
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COMMENT 290902	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 09:43 AM
821, I completely empathize with you. In most cases, when there's a problem, it's not that the owner just "doesn't know". It's that they don't care. The onus shouldn't be on others to figure out ways to solve the barking problem when it happens. The responsibility should be with dog owners to make there's no barking to begin with. If you leave your dog unattended, leave a note with your neighbors asking them to let you know if your dogs are making any noise, and give them your contact info. Let them know that you will definitely take care of any problems. If I had neighbors like this, I would have no problem contacting them because I know they care. Of course this doesn't happen because the owners don't care. Therefore, there needs to be much stronger enforcement. If owners let their dogs bark after being contacted by Animal Control, there should be immediate and hefty fines levied on them. Without consequences, this problem won't stop.
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COMMENT 290903	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:44 AM
Very revealing photo.. a picture is worth a thousand words... This "refuge", this body of water, is no longer a refuge for anything. It is significantly both contaminated and polluted due to ongoing mismanagement. A permanent long term solution that will enable this pond to recover in a sustainable way, to exist with a healthy dynamic between animals, plants and the community must be implemented asap. It can be done.. other cities have faced this same issue and have implemented effective remediation which has in fact restored "dying" lakes/ponds to a healthy state. The refuge is in a constant unhealthy state...it is toxic... and cannot recover "naturally' year after year.. not with what gets dumped into it on a continual basis.
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FLICKA	Just Walkin' The Rails	2012-06-24 09:47 AM
If the water well is at the end of Humphrey Rd, it belonged, orginally, to the Sykes, providing water to the Montecito neighborhood. There was a water tower but the owners took it down not too many years ago as kids liked to climb it. I believe the well still provides water to the Miramar Beach cottages. The Sykes garage went with their big house, the 1st on Miramar Ave on the right. When my mom was little (b. 1912) they would go to the Miramar train stop for a ride to town, a bucket on a post held a flag to wave the engineer down. The big white house on Posilipo was moved there in the 50s during a highway widening, it had been on Miramar Ave, north side of highway. The house was cut into 3 pieces to move. The Nuns were the Imaculate Heart of Mary (IHM) order (Casa de Maria). Mrs. Bishop (Bishop Ranch in Goleta) willed 2 cottages, 1 on each side of creek, to the nuns. They didn't live there but used them for beach days. Sharks cove is named because during the drought of 1860s about 100,000 head of cattle were slaughtered in the area, The Matanza, and hides and tallow collected, bodies thrown in ocean; hence, Sharks Cove.
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SBROCKS	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 09:48 AM
Growing up in SB it has always been a tradition to place seating in front of "your" business. I think of the space in front of the property that I own as space that I take care of. If you own a business and the property don't you have a right to use the property. I use the property in front of of home and would not expect to find anything that I place out there moved or stolen. I understand the frustration of placing chairs out early, but I also undertand the right to place chairs out in front of my business.
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COMMENT 290906	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:49 AM
Wow these pics really sum it up. What can be done? Isnt it interesting that the year Miss Clark died the lake is dying too?
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COMMENT 290907	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 09:54 AM
LOCK your chairs in place so that they arent moved or stolen, problem solved. Any local knows that placing chairs is a part of the solstice parade. If you dont like it, dont do it, but dont complain. About 10 years ago, we had our chairs stolen/moved. That was when we started locking. The placing of the chairs occurs at many local events, including graduation ceremonies, so those who arrive minutes before the event, you dont get the best seat in the house. That's how it goes, you get last minute seats. Planning, time, and patience are critical to good viewing of SB events. OP sorry your chairs were taken, lock them next time.
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COMMENT 290908P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 09:55 AM
Since this lake is now of no ecological benefit I think we should build a Target or some other commercial endeavor. A Target could employ lots of our unemployed and contribute significan sales tax to our local government.
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COMMENT 290909	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 09:56 AM
When I run, I either count steps or breaths, or repeat a meditation mantra. Keeps my brain out of trouble and keeps me from running into things. When we're running, I think that's basically all we should be thinking about. In the moment is where it's at.
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COMMENT 290910	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 09:58 AM
I used to run marathons but am no longer a fan of what running does to an over 40 year old body so if it doesn't feel natural or enjoyable to you, try brisk walking or biking. I'm much more likely to go longer while listening to a workout playlist on my iPod in a lovely locale like Hendry's beach at low tide or the Riviera. Make it enjoyable so it's not a matter of IF you're going out today, but something you look forward to every day.
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COMMENT 290911	Kitty the Cat	2012-06-24 09:59 AM
You have been good to her and she has repaid you with her rat catching skills. To all cat people, keep in mind that the cat who has found you may be someone else's lost cat, whom they loved dearly and are looking for.
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COMMENT 290912P	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 10:02 AM
Does anyone know how to find out about the participants in the parade? Who were the dancing ladies groups? They were all awesome! I think I may have missed the first part, but the ladies in the pink feathers and the hula ladies were terrific! Are they a professional group or an amateurs organization? If the latter, then I am very impressed!
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ANIMALLISTNER	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 10:02 AM
834? Please explain? WTF?
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COMMENT 290914	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 10:08 AM
Almost as annoying as the chair gangs at parades, are the picnic table reservers at our local parks. When I use to live near Oak Park, it was common to see people chaining chairs to picnic tables on Thursday or Friday to try to claim them for a Saturday party. Sorry, OP public spaces are public.
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COMMENT 290915	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 10:11 AM
We encountered a very aggressive nasty man guarding his luxurious space who would not let anyone near his domain. I think even his wife was embarrassed about his behavior. I hope he is well on his way out of town. Otherwise it was a wonderful day!
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COMMENT 290916P	Solstice Evening	2012-06-24 10:13 AM
Solstice has always been my favorite Santa Barbara event, but this year the park seemed like Solstice on crack cocaine. The whole buy tix for food or games or a bouncy house was just insane! The crowd was bigger than I've ever seen it and the beer garden took up half the park. The kids section was just scary with so many children and parents in such a small space. I found a friend's kid wandering around lost and saw other children behaving badly whilst their parents were not watching. It was really just total chaos. We got out of there as soon as possible and won't be back. It's not a quaint locals event anymore.
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COMMENT 290917	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 10:14 AM
OP here: we don't share a fence with this unit, we're a little ways over, so it's not a shared property issue....
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COMMENT 290918	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 10:19 AM
Didn't you read the edhat comments yesterday???? I told you so...You just had to learn the hard way! I bet they were nice chairs too!
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RICHBUSYWOMAN	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 10:19 AM
You are cute and adorable! Keep it up, that is, until it starts to hurt. Then find something else to do to stay fit. I finally had to quit after 25 glorious years of running. At age 50 I now just bike and walk briskly. But I think I had every thought you detailed during my running career. I can't tell you how many times I actually raised by arms in the air in the Rocky victory dance after achieving some heartbreaking hilltop! Also, while I felt that a running mom would be inspiring and a good role model, my kids always cringed when I had to pick them up from school still a little sweaty and in my running clothes...my daughter once actually said to me, all slunk down in her seat, "Mom, you just look so 'run down' all the time." !!!
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COMMENT 290920P	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 10:22 AM
I had a similar problem with a neighbor with a shared fence and frequently visiting family. Only when the kids grew up (or moved away - not sure which since we are not friendly) did it stop. If you can talk with the neighbor, perhaps you can suggest a covering to the fence that would make less noise? Or if this is a rental unit, talk with the landlord/owner? Good luck. I didn't have a dog but found the repetitive noise maddening.
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COMMENT 290921P	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 10:23 AM
I agree with Tracy314--I have had the same experience as you described (in 2 different situations) & unfortunately learned the hard way not to directly approach dog owners about barking problems. The number for Animal Control is 963-1513. Good luck!
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COMMENT 290922	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 10:25 AM
I'm with REDTOP and 886. This used to be a charming tradition and I was always struck at how well the honor system worked in our little town. Regardless of how you feel about people putting out chairs, stealing is illegal. Honor system has broken down. Tradition tainted. If the City wants to enforce a no chairs/blankets/tape dibs policy, then it needs to be publicized and enforced. This is theft, plain and simple.
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COMMENT 290923P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 10:33 AM
SBJules, not a cheap shot; you must not have attempted to talk with/work with Mr. Escobar on park issues. We did and he won: we won't ever try again and get the hostile reaction from that City employee. But as for the Bird Refuge, hopefully, it will never be converted into residential or commercial usage. Not only would that be a very sad loss of open space, but probably in contradiction to the terms of the gift. Surely, there are solutions; this can not be a unique problem. 1342282 notes other cities have solutions and, I agree, it appears to be ongoing mismangement. It does not happen every year or not like this, in this intensity, but probably only in the very dry years where there's not been refilling runoff. This has been going on now for weeks and the only "solution" coming from the city seems to be a small boat churning around for some hours. Has Ms. Zachary reached out to other cities, reached out to UCSB, for instance, and the Bren School? And if so what have been the responses?
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COMMENT 290924	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 10:35 AM
Many very good suggestions here. OK, once when *I* unknowingly was the offending party, not with a barking dog, but a rooster, my neighbor sent me a recoding which indicated the time of day the offending bird was crowing. I was perfectly within legal rights to have chickens in the area I lived in, but I had no idea that beyond the few early morning crows, this guy was crowing all day long while I was at work. After profusely apologizing to my neighbor we found "Big Red" a new home in a more isolated area. It's just possible your neighbors aren't aware of the annoyance their dogs are causing. If they are renters and don't respond to your complaints then maybe their landlord will, but give them a chance by contacting them first. If you do record the barking keep a copy for the Animal Control or Police to listen to and as evidence if you need it.
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COMMENT 290925	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 10:38 AM
Our dog barked non-stop while we were at work. We didn't know until our sweet elderly neighbor asked us if she was OK. I think she was genuinely worried about her. We talked to the vet and turned out she had separation anxiety. She was lonely. So we got her a friend from the animal shelter. Problem solved.
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COMMENT 290926	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 10:45 AM
I knew Michael -- a magician in a way plus just being a great human being. His parade used to be along Cabrillo Blvd -- I did a painting of him plus parade there once.
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COMMENT 290927P	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 10:45 AM
Make a video of your dog's reaction and post it online ... maybe it will go viral and shame your neighbor and his kid. Or perhaps people will donate money to help you move :)
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COMMENT 290928	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 10:47 AM
Rude, obnoxious behavior.....you want a good spot come 2 hours early and set up and stay there and save for the rest of your gang. That would be perfectly legit. Nobody owns the sidewalk space even if your store fronts it. Do you also come out every morning and wash the sidewalk so it doesn't stink and look trashy the way the merchants did in years past.....now that was "tradition" and part of what made SB charming.
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SBROCKS	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 10:48 AM
I don't run. I do BeachBody. All the different programs are friendly to your body. I'm 55 and in better shape then when I did all those high impact programs. Check it out. There is a program for every body. You'll build muscle, lower your blood pressure and have a good time doing it. You won't think about anything, just the good time your having. Staying healthy should be fun.
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TAZ	Faces of Solstice	2012-06-24 10:48 AM
Thanks for sharing these views, often overlooked by the splashy parade.
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SBROCKS	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 10:54 AM
Write a letter stating that you are concerned that the repeated use will wear the fence out and that you don't have the 50% to replace the fence. If they want to continue to use the fence in this manner then you will expect them to replace the fence at 100% of the cost. Putting them on notice will generally stop the action. When it comes to having to spend money people will take notice. Also, send a copy to yourself, do not open the letter. If you were to have to go to court over the cost of the fence you could use the letter as evidence against the other property owner. These older fences were nt built for this type of use. Good luck.
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TAZ	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 10:54 AM
I thought this was one of the best parades ever! So fanciful and beautiful, we loved it :) Solstice imo is the best - or one of the best - things about SB :) I love living in a town that has such a fanciful nature.
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COMMENT 290933	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 10:56 AM
I think crowds were down from prior years and those who came left annoyed at the long-stalled and overly loud parade.
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COMMENT 290934	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 10:58 AM
I have also done couch to 5k and I promise it will get better. The first few weeks are unbearable for someone (me for sure) who wasn't previously in shape and didn't run their whole lives. Stick with it and be week 5 or 6 you will be so amazed at the improvement. As for what to think about when running, I use the time for internal (and okay sometimes vocal venting). Good luck!
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COMMENT 290935	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 11:03 AM
You are amazing and what a great sense of humor. Yes, you deserve "good" running shoes. I power walk every single day, when I am in SB it's a beach walk from east beach bath house to Lazy Acres and back and when I am in Maui I walk a beautiful route with hills and coastal views. The beauty of walking, you can do it anywhere you are. Most chiropractors and orthopedic surgeons will advise power walking over running. If you are in SB the City College track is cushioned and much easier on joints if you really want to run. Keep it up it will all pay off for you, good health, happy endorphins and a slim, trim body!
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COMMENT 290936	Toro Canyon Park	2012-06-24 11:03 AM
You really need to be careful saying all camp hosts are uneducated ex cons and vagrants. You are so wrong it's scary that this is allowed to be posted. You are putting wrong information in peoples heads. Who's going to want to visit our parks and campgrounds now if they think this is true? I assure you community this is very false. One camp host I know who works at a local camp site is a very good man in his 70's who worked hard at his job for 50 years and has retired. He gets a trailer to live in and takes care of the entire grounds including cleaning and selling firewood, checking guests in etc. He does not get paid. He works in exchange for living on the grounds. Parks are otherwise closing down because the state does not have the funds to keep them open. If it weren't for these people who work for FREE then our community wouldn't have these lovely parks to enjoy. Next time, instead of making up false accusations and poisoning peoples minds, you should really do some more research.
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MIELEMAI	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 11:06 AM
290912P: I was one of the dancers with the pink-feathered Samba group - thank you for the great compliment! : ) The group's name is Hip Brazil, and the magic behind it is Vanessa Isaac. She has been creating incredible Solstice shows with the famous feathered dancers for the last few years. This year she was joined by Guest Artist Nadra Ehrman, who is also an amazing dancer and choreographer who holds workshops several times a year. Vanessa teaches a Brazilian dance class every Sunday at 11:00 am at the SB Dance Center at 127A W. Canon Perdido St. and many of us joined the parade by first dancing with her regularly at this incredible class.
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COMMENT 290938	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 11:13 AM
GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!!
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COMMENT 290939	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 11:15 AM
Every year people get their chairs "stolen", every year you can buy them back on "Craig's List"
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COMMENT 290940	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 11:22 AM
Sounds like it's time for a neighborhood petition presented to them by police or their landlord.
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COMMENT 290941	Toro Canyon Park	2012-06-24 11:28 AM
Like most people, I want to complain the government does not provide or cuts services like resident park rangers, but I do not want to pay for those services nor will I offer any suggestion on what else to cut in the county budget.
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COMMENT 290942	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 11:30 AM
Hey OP. Do you ever read edhat? 'Cause I've seen people whining about this on here after every single parade in this town. Would you leave your purse out overnight and just expect it to be there when you got back? Come on. Santa Barbara isn't Santa Bubble anymore. Do you stake a spot in a line at the grocery store, shop around and then expect to have your spot back when you return in 15 minutes too?
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JMAC	Hippie Take Out	2012-06-24 11:32 AM
Looks like Darth Vader's bulldog to me....
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COMMENT 290944P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 11:32 AM
I spent some time in Colorado and the ponds there have paddle wheel type pumps that churn the water for aeration 24/7. Why can't the city do that? Seems to work in CO. Using a small boat and two employees to solve a problem that never should have happened in the first place is a bit strange and probably more costly in the long run.
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COMMENT 290945	Pool Fill In	2012-06-24 11:33 AM
Pick up 20 undocumented illiterate day workers down on Yanonali Street.
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COMMENT 290946	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 11:34 AM
Complain to the owner or property manager. If the resident is the owner make your complaint to the HOA.
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COMMENT 290947	Hippie Take Out	2012-06-24 11:34 AM
Sometimes I think Dan posts too much. I used to always check out his photos, but sometimes he just posts for the sake of posting, and enjoys referring to himself in third person. I dare (wish) him to post without saying " Dan saw this today..."
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COMMENT 290948	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 11:45 AM
Those who advocate theft or say it's what someone deserves are criminals.
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ANIMALLISTNER	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 11:46 AM
Thanks for the birds eye view, and perspective! VERY distressing and sad... I hear that even the crawfish are crawling out and dying....
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COMMENT 290950	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 11:46 AM
SBROCKS: OP doesn't share the fence with his neighbor. See first comment.
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JOHN WILEY	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 11:48 AM
Interesting discussion. Seems to be a very difficult problem for a long term fix. Looks like the creek's covered going under the west end of the golf course. It enters the refuge near the northwest tip just above the east end of the smallest island in the closeup pic. The drainage area may all be in the city limits (click for PDF download), judging by the basic topography in gMaps terrain. So maybe a short term fix would be to supervise some volunteer boaters to drive around and churn it up. Then get all the drainage area property owners to reduce nutrient runoff. Prohibit feeding ducks during dry season. Coax UCSB environmental student(s) to investigate inexpensive natural measures with non-invasive plants & animals. Maybe see if there's a spot to add a culvert upstream to increase the runoff to the refuge? Of course, getting everyone working together would take time and City funds at a time when both are scarce. Fun to sit (or fly over) and imagine what could be done though. :)
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AGENTSME	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 11:55 AM
what's most annoying to me is that there is no way to cross the street because the chairs are placed so tightly together and there's no break - not even by the crosswalks. There should be a few areas where one is able to get from one side to the other without having to do some crazy maneuvers.
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COMMENT 290953	A report sheds light on the economi...	2012-06-24 11:56 AM
An easy fix, which would limit most if not all frustration with the illegal immigration, would be to make illegal immigrants pay for services including medical, dental, welfare, schooling, etc. If these services cost something, less people would poor into our state. The tax paying social security card having citizens of this country are tired of footing the bill for those not legally here. Im especially unhappy about paying for the college education of illegal immigrants, but being unable to get financial support for my own daughters' education. Citizens first, whatever extra money is left....lol there isnt any!
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COMMENT 290954	Kitty the Cat	2012-06-24 11:56 AM
Beautiful - and those eyes are hypnotic....
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COMMENT 290955	Toro Canyon Park	2012-06-24 11:57 AM
The right wing politickers are wrong about the facts, as usual.
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COMMENT 290956P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 11:58 AM
In 1913, a harbor plan for this area, The Salt Pond, was proposed by an engineer named Brackinridge. The SB Historical Society has a drawing of the plan.
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COMMENT 290957	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 11:58 AM
This post is confusing. Could the OP clarify two things: first do you share a fence with this neighbor? I read conflicting information. Second, do you and the neighbor both rent from the same property manager? If both are renters, get the landlords involved. If nothing changes, move.
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COMMENT 290958	Solstice Evening	2012-06-24 12:01 PM
100,000 people loved the parade and had a great time. A few people can't help but find or invent negatives; I feel sorry for them.
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COMMENT 290959	Solstice Evening	2012-06-24 12:02 PM
I do not contribute in any way to Solstice festival, but I like to complain here that the event has to do what it has to do to raise the funds and accommodate the volumes of people.
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JOHN WILEY	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 12:04 PM
Thank you Staff, for a fun writeup and great pix. :)
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COMMENT 290961	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 12:11 PM
@290800 The facts are that this guy didn't get a way with it, people rarely do get a way with it, and they don't do it because they think they can get a way with it, they do it because they are deranged.
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COMMENT 290962	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 12:13 PM
@GRACE Yes, the benign die. So do the others.
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COMMENT 290963	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 12:37 PM
OP here: we do not share a fence (see first post) but our yard is diagonally behind the one in question. Our fences touch theirs at the corner. We do not rent from the same property owners. All the units are part of the same HOA, though. Moving is not an option. And frankly, shouldn't be.
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COMMENT 290964	Pretty Flowers	2012-06-24 12:37 PM
The leaves are poisonous I believe too... Watch babies, young children, and pets around this plant..... It also pops kids handballs and beachballs.... We had to remove it from our yard... It takes over and is difficult to remove :) It is EXTREMELY beautiful and if it were thornless, didn't have poisonous leaves, and wasn't a haven for rats, I would keep it in the yard! We have to opt for a different type of plant instead though :( Oh yeah, and if you Google it you can get the audio pronunciation of said word... That would be phonetically... BOO-GAHN-VEE-YUH... the double L is pronounced with the sound of a Y... Like in the Spanish alphabet but also ... BOO-GAHN-VILL-EA... Which seems come from a British pronunciation of the word :) You choose :) I prefer saying it with the L's sounding like a Y...
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COMMENT 290965P	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 12:46 PM
argh, I feel for you OP. I have a dog too that is tormented by rowdy uncontrolled neighborhood children. I hope you find a solution and I will follow this post to see what can be done. In my case I am trying to move.
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COMMENT 290966P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 01:00 PM
So many angry and nasty comments...the bottom line is someone stole chairs that they knew were not theirs...and that is very, very wrong...and very, very sad.
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COMMENT 290967	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 01:08 PM
Write the neighbor a nice letter and cc the HOA, asking them to have their children NOT do that to the fence. If the noise continues, ask other neighbors if they are bothered and have them also write a letter, cc the HOA. If it continues, file a noise complaint with the SBPD. You have options, you can actually file a suit against them for interfering with your quality of life. It is pretty rude that you have talked to them and they have not had their children stop. What would be fun about banging on a fence anyways? I don't get it. If my kids were acting that way I would have them stop, especially if a neighbor complained about it!
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COMMENT 290968	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 01:12 PM
The usual guy who has organized that solstice parade for years retired after last year and moved away, or so he told us. This year seemed more disorganized, I know some of the volunteers were frustrated by the way that things were unorganized, it makes it hard for them to help things go smoothly!
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COMMENT 290969	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 01:15 PM
Kids should be seen and not heard right. Just tell them to stop having so much fun it's driving you and poopsie crazy.They have no right to do this.
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COMMENT 290970	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 01:16 PM
Garden hose / reciprocating sprinkler.
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COMMENT 290971P	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 01:17 PM
To those of you who say "all" dogs owners or "all" barking dogs... really? "ALL" and "always"? Wow.
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COMMENT 290972	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 01:27 PM
I call BS on squatting with chairs hours or days before the parade. I lived in SB since the late 70's and during that time, the Solstice parade was mostly local and you could feel safe staking out your claim that morning since the crowds were minimal. Now, with 100,000 visitors - it smacks of local elitism and the time has come for the tradition to die. Honestly, my family quit going to the parade about 4 years ago as the fight for fanny space has become too vitriolic to endure no matter how many half-naked dancing people we get to see.
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COMMENT 290973	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 01:27 PM
970: lol, you beat me to it. Another option is to hire bigger meaner children to intimidate theirs, kids will be kids :)
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COMMENT 290974P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 01:35 PM
Interesting suggestions, John! As for prohibiting feeding the ducks, it is prohibited now all-year-round, but people pay no attention and think, if they do, that they are helping. They are not. I wonder about Los Carneros, does that ever stink? Perhaps it doesn't have the runoff that is at the Bird Refuge from the Montecito Country Club. Perhaps the Club would help with solutions? If there were a harbor there, imagine the regular dredging (and the costs) that would be required, millions of dollars.
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COMMENT 290975	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 01:37 PM
If you place something on the street or sidewalk and leave the area it is called LITTERING, and you can be fined for it.
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COMMENT 290976	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 01:37 PM
Thanks for clarifying OP. If moving is not an option, and talking to the father doesnt help, and obviously the police are not going to do anything during the day about kids hitting a fence, then you need to talk to the HOA. I would also find a way to use my sprinkler, the kind that can go over a fence, at the same time as the noise happens. We have 3 awful neighbors, and even with talking to them nicely, nothing changes, some people just are rude. We like where we live, housewise, so we stay put. Maybe talk to your vet about how to ease the anxiety this causes your dog, Im so sorry this is occurring.
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COMMENT 290977	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 01:38 PM
There seems to be a regular practice in Santa Barbara when people no longer want something, they leave it out by the curb, at which time, it's up for grabs. So why wouldn't someone take your chairs? Do you reserve a parking space by leaving something in it? of course not. If you want to have a good place to watch the parade then do what my parents always did, get up at 5am and go sit in the spot you want and merely reserve it by your presence. geez.......
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COMMENT 290978P	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 01:42 PM
969-Children should be taught by their parents that it is not acceptable to make an annoying amount of noise. If these people are renting it is also unacceptable for them to allow their children to cause unnecessary wear and tear on the owner's fence. The parents should take action to make sure their kids aren't annoying other people. I would definitely speak to the other neighbors to see their thoughts about the noise and write a letter with signatures from supporting neighbors to the HOA. Usually there is a clause in the HOA agreement concerning noise.
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RHS	Toro Canyon Park	2012-06-24 01:55 PM
Accusing the hosts of being criminal and drug abusers is beyond the pale. No evidence needed. Why can't arguments be made on issues and not ad hominum attacks. Still, it does seem to me that these sort of attacks do come universally from the neo-fascist, corporation apologist, anti-women, anti-gay, polka playing, John Wayne loving, anti-evolution-science-fact right wing nutsos. By-and-large.
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ROGER DODGER	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 01:56 PM
Amazing pictures John..Thank You for taking them..The supposed natural occurance which takes place every year has gone on far too long this time. Those in charge have no idea why? While some might see the criticism of those in charge to be "A cheap shot" Those in charge should know what is going on. I don't know much about anything but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell that the Bird Refuge needs a good cleaning out. As far as solutions money and volunteers seems to be good but where is it all going to come from?
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COMMENT 290982	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 02:15 PM
You owe for the dump fees.
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COMMENT 290983	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 02:15 PM
When you're not running, kindly write. You're fabulous!
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COMMENT 290984	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 02:30 PM
You don't have the accept the "kids will be kids" excuse. It's really intended to let the parents off the hook for actually having to teach kids about consideration for strangers and/or neighbours. It's great that you're keeping it civil while they want you to suck it up.... don't suck it up. It's not your job to suck it up while their kids do whatever they feel like doing. Ask them to exert their parental responsibilities and teach them consideration for other people.... if you chose to get into a tit for tat it could easily get ugly.
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COMMENT 290985	Heavy Metal	2012-06-24 02:34 PM
I need to recycle a big stack of aluminum chairs that someone abandoned just before the parade.
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COMMENT 290986	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 02:40 PM
The water quality of the Bird Refuge is a serious matter; the eutrophication occurring there and which is re occurring is water pollution using a scientific term; this process in fact does cause the water to become oxygen depleted, which then causes the animals and plants in that environment to which depend on oxygen rich water to die.. very simple. Which many of us actually saw occurring earlier this week. This is why it is of great interest to read the interviews SB Parks and Rec Jill Zachary gave regarding the "stink" ...saying its "okay", and further that "we have not observed turtles or crustaceans jumping out of the lake for oxygen" is blatantly misleading ... While the "we" may mean City employees, the implication is that the event did not occur at all.....that these "reports" are just much ado about nothing... but it in fact this DID occur and many of us were witness to it. For Ms Zachary to state further that "eutrophication is not harmful to the creatures in the lake" is inaccurate to say the least.... just do a literature search or google to see the causes and effects of eutrophication..... lack of oxygen = guess what...smothering.. death...; aeration from a pump.. permanent and on going.. solar or otherwise is one part of a long term restoration and solution... its a start at least.
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COMMENT 290987	Solstice Parade 2012	2012-06-24 02:50 PM
Nice.
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COMMENT 290988	Solstice Parade 2012	2012-06-24 02:51 PM
Great photos. So much color!
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COMMENT 290989	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 03:08 PM
HERE IS THE SOLUTION: Go to the County Courthouse & look up the owners name in public records. (If you're good with computers, you may be able to do this online.) You find the owners name, address and phone #. You complain TO THE OWNER. Don't even bother with any rental management company, as this will produce NO RESULTS. Complaining to the owner will stop this problem in no time flat. Present your case via letter or phone, doesn't matter which, so long as you are polite and to the point. Also: SB police MUST respond to any and all noise complaints, does not matter what time of day or nature of complaint or ordinances on the books. Have police talk to neighbors. Many times, if necessary. Contacting homeowner is still your best bet. No renter wants to be kicked out. STOP TRYING TO BE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR. Your health and that of your dog are at stake. Take action. Best of luck.
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COMMENT 290990	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 03:09 PM
The paramedics are responding, just heard the sirens go by...
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ROGER DODGER	Some elderly folks are looking for ...	2012-06-24 03:09 PM
Was this the double wide? I heard there might have been a death in that fire..
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RIBES	Get the Push Pins Honey	2012-06-24 03:10 PM
Looks like a Western Tiger Swallowtail to me. I've been seeing lots of butterflies at my place--must be the right time. I've had Blues, Sulphers and Painted Ladies. Butterfly watching is so much fun. If you can't travel around to see things, why not look more closely at what's in your own backyard?
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 03:14 PM
Many years ago I was a security guard in a mall and one of our guards got caught looking up womens dresses. A woman reported it to me and I called it in he went away for sometime. I don't question things like this Call the Police don't even think twice.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 03:15 PM
I'm waiting to hear more but haven't.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 03:21 PM
Sounds like they are there no information on extent of injuries if I hear more I will post it.
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DEE D	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 03:22 PM
This discussion reminds me a lot of what I used to hear back in the 60's about neighborhood kids, running and playing, dashing across lawns, trampling plants, (accompanied, in those days, by half a dozen dogs) playing hide 'n seek, street ball, yelling and screaming, riding bikes on the sidewalks, etc. You don't see that anymore; kids stay inside and watch tv or play video games. All I can say is, don't generalize. Address specific incidents specifically, and with respect and a genuine desire to be reasonable and neighborly. We have always had dogs (and kids.) I don't think our current little pup is too noisy, and she certainly gets lots of walks and such. But dogs have to be dogs, just as kids have to be kids. Everyone be considerate and reasonable. I like the occasional sound of barking dogs, it makes a neighborhood feel alive.
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COMMENT 290998	Get the Push Pins Honey	2012-06-24 03:37 PM
Definitely Western Swallowtail (Papillo rutulus). Adults fly March through September. Host plants are willows and alders. These Westerns are found throughout California and Western North America. Haven't seen many of these in last few years. The most common sulfur (correct spelling) is the "Cloudless" sulfur. That's the large yellow butterfly seen in our gardens now.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 03:44 PM
There is another accident 154 at StageCoach..
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COMMENT 291000P	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 03:55 PM
Passed the accident at Paradise shortly after it happened. Man in passenger seat of 1 car was still in the seat and many were standing by car talking to him. Did not seem life-threatening. A second accident? That would explain the parade of sirens coming our way as we descended 154.
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COMMENT 291001	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 03:58 PM
Like pea soup, John yuk!- Last Thurs. eve. traveling north on the 101 freeway with the windows closed -Whooo-wee - immediately realized odor was emanating from the bird refuge - Aeration is the only natural fix - the stench is getting worse. In the past the refuge had attracted beautiful migratory birds - as long as I can remember there has been a slight odor at certain times of the year - wonder if anyone has done a study of bird feeding patterns and if some species are no longer feeding there?
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COMMENT 291002	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 04:04 PM
This is the responsibility of your HOA.....this is NOT "normal" noise. If they don't have a rule regarding this maybe this will be the catalyst that will prompt them to create one. I can't imagine having to endure this day after day. Maybe the reason your other neighbors haven't complained is that they are not at home during the day.
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COMMENT 291003P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 04:09 PM
Here are the addresses for contacting the City Parks and Rec link; Nancy Rapp is the head. It would be a good idea to cc the mayor and council: link. The city administrator's address is here: Jim Armstrong who hires the division heads and is himself appointed by the Council. Perhaps copy/paste 1342292's which summarizes the issue, and linking to John Wiley's photos.
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COMMENT 291004	Wayward Pelican	2012-06-24 04:19 PM
847, It's possible but not likely. Please don't feed pelicans on piers (or elsewhere.) Feeding one fish will make a juvenile pelican that knows no better into a beggar. It's a death sentence for many: they get habituated to being fed, are unable, especially when young, to feed themselves — it takes quite a lot of skill trying and missing — if they have gotten used to being fed. Soon, they get hooked by fishing lines/hooks, pouches torn, because of identifying fishermen as sources of food; fishermen cut the lines ... and the birds, if unable to fly because of the fishing line, die ... unless they're lucky enough to be rescued by the SBWCN volunteers. Over the years, quite a few have been found, rescued and untangled from Refugio Beach; quite a few more have not survived.
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COMMENT 291005	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 04:21 PM
I live about 1 1/2 miles from start of parade, up near Old Mission. It was great fun to water my garden and watch all the fancy new cars (and touros) cruise past, all looking for a parking space. At 1pm, this extra "traffic" died down. By this activity alone, I would say there were more people attending this year's parade than in years previous. What a stunningly beautiful day for a parade, too. Perfect.
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COMMENT 291006P	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 04:29 PM
Thanks, 877P. I feel if a large number of devoted EdHatters start making contacts from your list, spread the word to others via email & voice, and keep the full court press up all summer, something might just happen. This is literally a big STINKING problem. Ever wonder what all the tourists who attempt to walk, skate, pedal, & drive by this think? Yuk!
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COMMENT 291007	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 04:34 PM
Dee D, I can't be sure, but you sound like a neighbor who wouldn't be receptive at all if you were told that your dog barked too much. I don't need excess noise like barking to make my neighborhood "sound alive". There are plenty of soothing sounds to do that - the gentle rustle of leaves blowing in the wind, the sound of a trickle of water or the rain, etc. Both kids and dogs need to be taught consideration for others, manners, and boundaries. Saying "dogs will be dogs" or "kids will be kids" is just an excuse for not caring about how your actions affect others.
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BIPOLARESQUE	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 04:45 PM
I am all for the video suggestion! I like to hope people really don't seem to get what's happening unless you force them to actually look. Good luck!
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COMMENT 291009	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 04:46 PM
You can't solve this problem without having an address with which to link it. Sounds to me like you have many barking dogs, not just one or two. If you have a general complaint, "dogs barking at all hours," then there is no solution. If you know the location/source, then you find another neighbor to join in on your complaint. With City Animal Control TWO neighbors "constitutes a neighborhood." You must be ready to keep a log of the barking, days & times. Don't let up with calling Animal Control. Be the squeaky wheel. Don't give up. Do not approach the owners, unless you want a confrontation. Even politeness and diplomacy won't help you---in 90% of these cases. There is free mediation through the City, if it comes to that. I know whereof I write---I have been through it all. My dogs aren't allowed to bark beyond the initial "someone at the door" warning barks. They have companionship 24/7, lucky pups.
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MESARATS	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 04:53 PM
When did the tradition of setting up chairs start? In the 1960s even as kids 4 or 5 year old we dressed up and went to Fiesta and we never had chairs and we just stood like most everyone, but sometimes got a curb to sit on. Even later, I recall mostly the really old people or maybe women with babies were the only ones in chairs and mostly those were set up by the shopkeepers on State. It was a lot less populated then so maybe that is it, but the thought of even taking a chair to a parade has never even crossed my mind. As rider, I do get a kick out of the groups that set up the horse pie bingo and root for riders when the pie hits the square. Now that is a reason to stake out your spot.
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NEIGHBOR	Some elderly folks are looking for ...	2012-06-24 04:54 PM
I don"t know about the architecture Roger, but the address in the article is Solvang, rather than Lompoc. Maybe they are just looking for help in Lompoc.
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COMMENT 291012	Heavy Metal	2012-06-24 04:56 PM
Marborg will do it.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 05:11 PM
Fire and Medics responding Code 3 Suspect being detained.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 05:11 PM
Facial lacerations..Code 4 now.
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COMMENT 291015P	Solstice Parade 2012	2012-06-24 05:14 PM
Great shot. Thanks for sharing.
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COMMENT 291017	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 05:19 PM
154 can be nuts on Sunday afternoons. Hope everyone is ok.
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COMMENT 291018	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 05:24 PM
OP here again. Thanks all for the input and good advice. Please stay tuned! I love the hose idea but there is a huge tree in the way.... The parental explanation was that they throw or hit a ball and when they miss, it hits the fence. And apparently there is no way they can change the direction of play so that missed balls don't hit the fence. I think the kids are home alone as it happens a lot in the afternoon. Or the adults don't care. The dad said he told the kids to ignore the neighbor's shouts over the fence to stop. The kids yelled back once that it was their yard and they could do whatever they wanted and proceeded to beat on the fence loudly for some time. We don't yell at them anymore as I'm afraid of a confrontation. But something has to change.
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CORKY	Bigs the Silly Labrador	2012-06-24 05:28 PM
That's one active dog. Lucky he has someone to indulge him in many activities.
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NEIGHBOR	Flower Fest	2012-06-24 05:32 PM
What time of day were you over Lompoc John?
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COMMENT 291021	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 05:38 PM
I have seen people put their full shopping carts in a checkout line, and then go back to pick up additional items. If their cart is ahead of me, and the person ahead of their cart is actually being checked out, I'll move their untended cart aside and get my items on the conveyor. Not once has the checker ever failed to agree with and defend my action when the disgruntled "entitlement" shopper returns, as I'm nearly completely checked out myself.
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COMMENT 291022	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 05:39 PM
They could also put up a net or something else to cushion the fence. The parents sound like typical inconsiderate you-know-whats. I have some neighbors who like to stay up till 3am talking and laughing loudly in their back yard during the week (city college drops outs I assume). I think next time they're going to get a wake up call at 6am from my 15", 68mm of excursion, 30hz tune, 2400wrms powered sub playing a Black Hawk Down or Saving Private Ryan crescendo.
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COMMENT 291023	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 05:44 PM
Anything more than 24 hours out on the street is considered abandoned property.
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COMMENT 291024	There's an App for That	2012-06-24 05:50 PM
sat on the couch, eating a piece of apricot pie while i read about your running...glad it's you and not me! happy you are back on edhat.
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COMMENT 291025	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 05:52 PM
Between the people who are distracted over losing their money at the Casino and those that think that hitting up 15 wineries in a day doesn't get you buzzed - it's a wonder more of these tragic events don't happen.
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COMMENT 291026	Solstice Parade 2012	2012-06-24 06:13 PM
Really nice photograph with the subject, light, and the angle. Does anyone else have any pix of those chix in those wife beaters the other day? The ones on the motos? The light, the angle, and everything on those pix were out of this world. SB chix in wife beaters - how can you beat that?
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COMMENT 291027	Get the Push Pins Honey	2012-06-24 06:16 PM
Don't think it's a Western Tiger Swallowtail due to the pointed tips. Probably something else, but not sure. Check with the folks at the Natural History Museum as they have peeps who probably know-know.
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COMMENT 291028	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 06:24 PM
How about being a good neighbor and just let it all go? I used to have a neighbor who would complain all the time until I had my kids go over to his house and clean his yard. Ask you neighbor if his kids will clean your yard and maybe your dog won't be so afraid of the loud sounds. I had a "fraidy cat" dog once, but my father decided to donate him to a local charity (that's what he said but I think the dog was put to sleep). Don't do the wrong thing; please do the right thing (do not get rid of your dog though even though it exhibits signs of weakness).
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:26 PM
Is responding..Heard 2 red tag, two yellow tag..
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COMMENT 291030	Kittens for Adoption	2012-06-24 06:27 PM
Take the cats Dan and post pictures of the for our enjoyment. You need two more cats and we need more of your photos and stories about your cats. So sorry for you loss - when Bob went I felt really bad.
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COMMENT 291031P	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 06:27 PM
290966P - so someone puts furniture out on the public space; doesn't sit on it himself/herself; someone else sees it and takes it; where's the crime? Yes, it is too bad that Santa Barbara is not as it was, a small town, but as Mesarats noted, even when it was a smaller town there was not the sense of entitlement to public space as there is revealed here. I go to the Solstice and make an effort to get there early so as to have a space or go further up State Street. ...And as for the person advocating locking the chairs, shame ... and no sympathy if there's vandalism to those same chairs. Want to reserve a space? Do as those do for hot films at the Arlington or has happened for new Apple products, next year stand (or sit) in line (or pay someone else to do it.)
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COMMENT 291032P	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:27 PM
Thanks, Roger, I was wondering. I've been hearing sirens in the west end of Goleta for about 5 minutes.
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COMMENT 291033	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 06:29 PM
875- You are not the only one with trouble with 'that' house. Many neighbors have complained about the dogs, profanity unleashed in anger at small children, and much noise in general at all hours. I once heard a dog fight and a woman on the sidewalk asking that the dog be called off, only to be met with a tirade of obscenities. About a week later, I heard another dog fight followed by a yelping dog and the resident screaming, "You pepper sprayed my dog!" Do not be afraid to walk in your own neighborhood; carry pepper spray.
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COMMENT 291034P	Get the Push Pins Honey	2012-06-24 06:30 PM
Link Official bufferfly site with a number of images that can be clicked to magnify and compare. I would say that it does look like a Western Tiger Swallowtail. I don't know to what the "pointed tips" was referring - the tail, the edging?
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:35 PM
It's a full fire responce for this accident they seem a ways off North I think it's the one listed on top of the CHP Site. Cal Star is going to land on the freeway.. They must be past El Cap with this one. AMR just reported they got one loaded up ground to Cottage code 3..Sounds like they are calling it the IC highway incident, I might have that title wrong but think I heard it that way.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:36 PM
minor injuries this TC.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:40 PM
Maybe it's this one highway 101 at Arroyo Quemada Lane.. It's listed with major injuries.
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COMMENT 291038P	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:41 PM
i wasn't sure what cal star was, its california critical care in motion, (helicopter ambulance) http://www.calstar.org/default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:47 PM
Yea sorry..I should have explained.
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COMMENT 291041P	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:55 PM
Roger, that's probably the one, it's only about 15 miles up the 101 from Sandpiper.
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COMMENT 291042	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 06:55 PM
CALSTAR (California-Shock Trauma Air Rescue)
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RAINE5360	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 06:57 PM
It was great. It's always great. We are privileged to live where there are so many playful, imaginative people.
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 07:03 PM
Yea 15 miles up sounds about right Thank You..
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COMMENT 291045P	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 07:04 PM
What does red tag and yellow tag refer to?
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COMMENT 291046	Lovely Poison	2012-06-24 07:04 PM
Other places use floating electric pumps that create an ornamental 15' fountain while aerating the water. Three of those puppies would probably solve the problem and would only have to run when oxygen level is low.
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COMMENT 291047P	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 07:29 PM
45P, I just check Wiki, here you go. Yellow: Delayed urgent care / can delay up to one hour Red: Immediate immediate care / life-threatening
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ROGER DODGER	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 07:30 PM
Yellow tag treatment can be delayed for up to an hour. Red Tag immediate care life threatening injuries..
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COMMENT 291049	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 07:33 PM
Red Tag means critical/life threatening. Urgent care needed.. Yellow tag means significant injury needing treatment,not critical. Green tag means walking wounded, can wait a while for treatment. Black tag means deceased.
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COMMENT 291050	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 07:42 PM
CHP website say someone is trapped in an SUV, sounds like a rollover.
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COMMENT 291051	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 07:45 PM
The parents are jerks, tell the HOA and if that doesn't help then start calling the police. They will suggest to the parents that they do something to make it so neighbors are not disturbed. It is sad that the Dad is encouraging his children to be inconsiderate little jerks!! :(
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COMMENT 291052	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 07:49 PM
have white noise like a fan (with closed windows) and maybe add silicon earplugs.
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JOHN WILEY	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 08:02 PM
I'm about to send Ed some aerials. Just happened to see it coming home from Lompoc. Looked pretty bad.
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COMMENT 291054	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:05 PM
In Portland this has been a long-standing problem and the police finally just cleared all sidewalk chairs, tape, etc. prior to the morning of the parade and word got around. If you want to reserve a space you need to physically be there. Seems fair to me.
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COMMENT 291055	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 08:11 PM
Fantastic portraits and write up about the event. Thank you, David.
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JOHN WILEY	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 08:18 PM
OK, so I've submitted the pix but meanwhile I can say that the injuries might have been downgraded. Heading home along the freeway I noticed a helicopter going West not long before we passed the accident, at what didn't seem top speed. Seems likely a major trauma would've been headed to Cottage or direct to Santa Ynez from there, so maybe the chopper was just returning to base or going somewhere else. Both vehicles were open and no crowd of fire/rescue around them, so hopefully nobody trapped. Freeway was completely stopped, and backed up maybe 2-3 miles when we went by at 6:40.
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COMMENT 291057	CHP says a drunken wrong-way driver...	2012-06-24 08:36 PM
Clearly a Brit who thought he was back in the UK. Good thing he still had some heavy drinking to do while traffic was heavier.
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CORKY	Stolen Chairs	2012-06-24 08:43 PM
My first thought was, "Wasn't this answered yesterday when someone asked how early they could set chairs out? Times are tough and it's sad that everyone isn't honest, but it's pretty chancy to leave something out even in the morning, and even if it's permitted.
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AQUAHOLIC	Kittens for Adoption	2012-06-24 08:44 PM
Ohhhh those kitties are soooo adorable, but I have a 105 lb Lab who is gentle, but might not like those two...hope they find a forever home soon.
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AQUAHOLIC	Faces of Solstice	2012-06-24 08:45 PM
Well done!....enjoyed these.
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COMMENT 291061	Solstice Parade 2012	2012-06-24 08:45 PM
Was this a local dance group?
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COMMENT 291062	Roger Code Red	2012-06-24 08:46 PM
A lot of outsiders come in looking to victimize students .
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COMMENT 291063	Solstice 2012 Drum Count	2012-06-24 08:50 PM
Professional groups and professional costumes are not playful, imaginative or a privilege to watch. It was an endurance test this year. Bring back local, bring back volunteer and bring back whimsy. I'd rather see homemade kleenex flowers on a Red Flyer than a bunch of sound trucks and professional troops hacking away at this formerly fun local tradition.
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COMMENT 291064	Heavy Metal	2012-06-24 08:54 PM
If they're still decent, give them to Goodwill or Habitat for Humanity.
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ROGER DODGER	Looks to John Wiley like maybe in t...	2012-06-24 08:58 PM
Thanks for the pictures John..
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ANIMALLISTNER	Kittens for Adoption	2012-06-24 09:03 PM
We had a nice couple that met the kittens, they took an application home, expressing HUGE interest in the kitens. We do home checks with ALL our animals, and couldnt make the home check within their time preference. So they backed out of the adoption yesterday. So our precious kittens are once again on the adoption block. Please we hope to adopt them together... Thank you Edhat. You ROCK!
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COMMENT 291067P	The Hotel Incentive Program which w...	2012-06-24 09:10 PM
For a more objective (and informed!) story about this flawed proposal read Nick Welshs weekend poodle story at www.independent.com/news/2012/jun/23/weekend-poodle-alert/ I submitted the Indy story to Edhat saturday morning but for some reason it wasnt posted- and Im a longtime subscriber. Thus I was surprised to see the KEYT fluff story. Oh well, anyway, thisis an important story
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COMMENT 291068P	The Hotel Incentive Program which w...	2012-06-24 09:12 PM
Wait- it looks like KEYT mistakenly published a Carbajal press release as "news". The story completely misstates the facts.
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FLICKA	Michael Gonzalez Parade	2012-06-24 09:42 PM
Beautiful photos, David, thanks. It was a State St Parade except for maybe a couple years when it was on Cabrillo, starting down by where the arch is now. Maybe that's the confusion of someone thinking Michael's parade started at Milpas.
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COMMENT 291070P	Fences Don't Always Make Good Neigh...	2012-06-24 09:51 PM
If they are younger than teenagers, and it was me, I would aim water over the fence until the noise stopped. But I am also a big man and would not feel threatened by their jerk of a "dad".
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BULLSEYEB	Faces of Solstice	2012-06-24 10:24 PM
Great photos! Thank you for posting! Wow!
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BULLSEYEB	The Kites	2012-06-24 10:27 PM
LOL That was good for a chuckle, Betsy! Thanks! The kite closest to the pelican looks like a hawk going into a tuck to reach him. And the second one looks like a hawk with his talons out ready to grab his prey!
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MESARATS	Woof Woof	2012-06-24 10:50 PM
RE821. To list your neighbors addresses without having the spine to talk to them is cowerdley. I noticed that you did not post your address. Possiblly they work at night and are not aware. Years back one of my dogs started barking when i was at work and had no idea until my neighbor mentioned it. I thanked her, gave her my number and used training and a bark collar to solve the problem. There are plenty of young and rowdy neighbors in my area and I always deal with them first and I have never had a issue with "confrontation". Most issues( granted not all) can be delt without over utilizing every pubic resource and just taking the first step. These are your neighbors, not Americas Most Wanted. If tattle, hide and call for help is the new way people are doing things in their private life and in the workforce, no wonder things are going to pot.
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BULLSEYEB	Kitty the Cat	2012-06-24 10:51 PM
Beautiful! Our black cat was nicknamed "The Mighty Huntress" because she was so prolific with the rodents in the neighborhood. We never did get her to understand that we wanted her to get the gophers in OUR yard first before she brought in the take out food.
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BULLSEYEB	Bigs the Silly Labrador	2012-06-24 10:55 PM
Bigs, you lucky dog, you! Man, have you got it made! But then again, Joel isn't too bad off himself!
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COMMENT 291076P	The Kites	2012-06-24 11:31 PM
Glad you enjoyed it, Bullseye! Those were beautiful kites; the one to the upper right must have been at least 5-feet-long from head to tail and I thought the juxtaposition funny when the pelican flew by!
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